First things first, big follower, keep up the great work. Also just happy that India has had such a great decade now in tests.
Consider Kumble. Him and Ash are both pretty close in your chart. Mostly Kumble didn't have enough support form the rest the bowling attack, unlike Ash. Making it easier for opposition batsmen to continue scoring off the other 'easier' bowlers from that era. Also opposition teams generally under lesser pressure, because India won lesser %age in that era, hence batsmen able to play more freely.
Is there a case for Kumble being the bigger match winner or even match saver? How can we factor in these? E.g. - Kumble picking 60%+ of the total wickets for other spinners (competing with two biggies in this list Murli and Warnie who were from that Era) in the tests he played, compared to Ash's 44%
Yeah...but Kumble didn't play on doctored snake-pits after 1999.
If anything, Kumble had to suffer the 'corporate' wickets of the 2000s. Once you take Ashwin out of the doctored-pitches...you get to see how ordinary he really is.
He is an incredible bowler. Love the detail as always; fascinating insight to the dismissals of Root, Foakes, Pope and Duckett. When laid out like that, it seems impossible not to get out to...
Most times, the batter (including Root, Pope, Duckett etc.) doesn't miss the ball. But Ashwin does make batters miss the ball more often than most other bowlers.
This reads like a copy-paste article. An article about Bazball....where 'Bazball' is replaced by 'Ashwin'.
It had everything- hyperbole..."Ashwin is india's greatest match winner of all time'. It has dichotomy..." But Ashwin is not good enough to be played as the lone spinner in SENA countries".
With honesty and integrity...the author would have called out Ashwin for what he is...' a doctored-pitch' bully, who is otherwise extremely ordinary on non-doctored pitches (avg 42 in Aus and nearly 50 in SA...and that too only after getting the wicket of a slogging tail-ender).
So ordinary that he gets out-bowled by Grame Swann (2012), Monty Panesar (2012), Moeen Ali (2014 and 2018), Dom Bess (2021) Nathan Lyon (2014),Tom Hartley (2024) , O'Keefe (2017), Santner (2024l).
First things first, big follower, keep up the great work. Also just happy that India has had such a great decade now in tests.
Consider Kumble. Him and Ash are both pretty close in your chart. Mostly Kumble didn't have enough support form the rest the bowling attack, unlike Ash. Making it easier for opposition batsmen to continue scoring off the other 'easier' bowlers from that era. Also opposition teams generally under lesser pressure, because India won lesser %age in that era, hence batsmen able to play more freely.
Is there a case for Kumble being the bigger match winner or even match saver? How can we factor in these? E.g. - Kumble picking 60%+ of the total wickets for other spinners (competing with two biggies in this list Murli and Warnie who were from that Era) in the tests he played, compared to Ash's 44%
Kumble's wickets cost 6 runs more.
Ashwin has a broader range than Kumble
Yeah...but Kumble didn't play on doctored snake-pits after 1999.
If anything, Kumble had to suffer the 'corporate' wickets of the 2000s. Once you take Ashwin out of the doctored-pitches...you get to see how ordinary he really is.
He is an incredible bowler. Love the detail as always; fascinating insight to the dismissals of Root, Foakes, Pope and Duckett. When laid out like that, it seems impossible not to get out to...
Most times, the batter (including Root, Pope, Duckett etc.) doesn't miss the ball. But Ashwin does make batters miss the ball more often than most other bowlers.
This reads like a copy-paste article. An article about Bazball....where 'Bazball' is replaced by 'Ashwin'.
It had everything- hyperbole..."Ashwin is india's greatest match winner of all time'. It has dichotomy..." But Ashwin is not good enough to be played as the lone spinner in SENA countries".
With honesty and integrity...the author would have called out Ashwin for what he is...' a doctored-pitch' bully, who is otherwise extremely ordinary on non-doctored pitches (avg 42 in Aus and nearly 50 in SA...and that too only after getting the wicket of a slogging tail-ender).
So ordinary that he gets out-bowled by Grame Swann (2012), Monty Panesar (2012), Moeen Ali (2014 and 2018), Dom Bess (2021) Nathan Lyon (2014),Tom Hartley (2024) , O'Keefe (2017), Santner (2024l).